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Who gets the swine flu vaccine? Seniors get left-overs if there are any

Let the rationing begin:

Jul 29, 2009 (CIDRAP News) – The top US advisory panel on immunizations recommended today that groups totaling up to 159 million people be targeted for vaccination against the pandemic H1N1 influenza virus but that a narrower population of about 41 million have priority if initial supplies are short.

The Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) picked five target groups for initial immunization because of their increased risk of H1N1 infection or complications or their contact with vulnerable people:

  • Pregnant women
  • Household contacts of babies under 6 months of age
  • Healthcare and emergency medical services (EMS) workers
  • Children and young people aged 6 months through 24 years
  • People between 25 and 64 years who have chronic medical conditions

But if the demand for vaccine outstrips supplies, said Dr.Anne Schuchat of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the five groups would be as follows:

  • Pregnant women
  • Healthcare and EMS workers who have direct contact with patients or infectious substances
  • Household contacts of babies younger than 6 months
  • Children aged 6 months through 4 years
  • Children and adolescents from 5 through 18 years who have risk factors for flu complications

Healthy people between the ages of 25 and 64 can be immunized after the demand from the target groups has been met, said the committee, which advises the CDC. Because people 65 and older seem to have a lower risk of H1N1 infection than younger people, they can be vaccinated as supplies permit and other groups are served, the panel advised.

[Think about this.  It does not look good for the adult population and even worse for ages 65 plus, who essentially won’t be considered until the entire population has been vaccinated.  Even under the first scenaro, 65 plus are not allowed the vaccine.  It does not bode well for babies under 6 months old either.  It appears they have used the Complete Lives System advocated by Presidential Advisor and brother of Rahm, Dr. Ezekiel Emanual.]

old young peter singer

Now let’s see, Peter Singer equation as follows:

“If a teenager can be expected to live another 70 years, saving her life counts as a gain of 70 life-years, whereas if a person of 85 can be expected to live another 5 years, then saving the 85-year-old will count as a gain of only 5 life-years. That suggests that saving one teenager is equivalent to saving 14 85-year-olds.”

Excerpt from Why We Must Ration Health Care by Peter Singer published NYT.com on July 15, 2009.

See previous post What Price is Life? Peter Singer and Obamacare.

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Posted: 07.30.09

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What price is life? Peter Singer and Obamacare

Wow.  I can hardly believe what I am reading here.  I started out trying to double-check or verify my memory on a couple of statements by our president when discussing health care.

One being a statement he made about his grandmother:  The “question was,” Obama said, “does she get hip-replacement surgery, even though she was fragile enough they were not sure how long she would last?”  I am still checking but it seems he did make this or similar statements at least two times (May 3/NYT and June 24/ABC.)

The other statement I wanted to verify was one where he answered a lady from the audience (ABC) saying that rather than a pacemaker, a pain killer might be more appropriate (and cheaper, implication being).  The red pill?  Or the blue pill?  I know he made that red pill blue pill statement because I heard that live.  There is a video of him answering the woman about her elderly mother and it seems he did say something about taking a pain killer but it’s one of his long, rambling answers so who knows what he said.  Here’s a link to the entire statement on video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJYvaLS-xOw

BUT beyond those very revealing statements about what Obamacare has in store for Americans and his own mindset concerning the same, I came across PETER SINGER.  He is a Princeton professor of bioethics and he wrote an article at NYT.com/magazine about rationing of health care and how it must be done.  This is not some old writing either but dated July 15, 2009.  Peter Singer is a real piece of work and caused some controversy when he was first hired at Princeton (I believe 1999) and no wonder.

He has come up with these equations  such as “one teenager is worth (blank) 85 year olds.”  I guess maybe he has not come up with the number of old people worth the one teenager.  I suppose this will be up to the government committee or maybe the health czar.  I find this shocking.

The following are Peter Singer quotes.  This comes from an older source:

“I do think that it is sometimes appropriate to kill a human infant. For me, the relevant question is, what makes it so seriously wrong to take a life?  Those of you who are not vegetarians are responsible for taking a life every time you eat. Species is no more relevant than race in making these judgments.”

and “A human being doesn’t have value simply in virtue of being a human…..”

and “I don’t believe in the existence of God, so it makes no sense to me to say that a human being is a creature of God. It’s as simple as that.”

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I will be reading more to see if Princeton Professor Singer and Barack Obama have any connections to indicate if and how Obama has been influenced by Singer, or maybe even formulated his ideas on health care based on some of his equations.  Seems likely that he did to me.

I can’t read too much more right now.  It makes me ill.  My opinion:  This is about as anti-American, anti- Christian as anything could be.  The word evil comes to mind.

UPDATE:  There are two Obama czars who seem to have ideas in conformity with Singer – Cass Sunstein, Obama Regulatory Czar and John Holdren, Obama Science Czar.  There is not much about them that is easily available (can’t imagine why).  There was a question posed on Answer.com about them but the post has been deleted.  Sunstein is a advocate of animal rights to the point of giving them a right to sue in court.  Not sure how they would do that, but…..John  Holdren is a eugenicist and has a history of advocating population control and sterilization. (http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/)

Also, Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, Obama healthcare advisor.http://rightsoup.com/rahms-brother-dr-ezekiel-emanuel-the-death-czar/ 

So I have said I guess a hundred times, birds of a feather flock together.  And who is at the center of the flock? – none other than Barack Obama.  From his mentors throughout life to his choices of all the czars, they are all far out of the mainstream of America.  He has over 30 czars now and this is where he’s putting the more controversial people.

I know one thing without a shadow of a doubt, I don’t want Peter Singer, John Holdren, and Cass Sunstein with their hands anywhere near our health care.  I mean, this stuff is extreme, shocking, and radical.  And are they somewhere in some obscure college or something – no, they are the president’s right-hand men, and answer to no one but him.  (Well, Singer is not but I think he is somewhere in the shadows pretty close at hand.)  And this is why we cannot sit by and let these ungodly beliefs creep in.  And creep is to put it mildly.  They are at the door!!

Posted:  07.28.09  Update:  07.28.09 @ 7:36 p.m. Updated:  07.29 @ 1:22 p.m.

Update:  Knowing how much the conservative is hated by the left, I wonder what weight of value Singer and company would put on a conservative life?  Probably minus zero.  A tea bagger or a birther would be snuffed out like a roach.

How would it feel to have your fate in the hands of those who do not think human life necessarily has value?   Talk about insanity, this would be insanity.  This whole thing is about much much more than health care or health insurance.

Posted  07.28.09


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