Some details about Judge John Roll killed in Arizona massacre

There’s some strange things about this case.  I was thinking there’s an awful lot of activity on the one hand, so what is the other hand doing?

A federal judge was killed in this shooting and it has been barely mentioned.  There have been news conferences and endless coverage and yet no one has addressed his injuries.  Where was he shot?  When did he die, at the scene or at the hospital?  Could he have been the target?  You would think the death of a federal judge would be the top story, or at least of equal coverage.

They have made a point of stating that Congresswoman Giffords was the target, but that may or may not be true.  So I began trying to find out something about Judge Roll, and what I found leads me to believe he could very well have been more than a random victim.  May or may not.  I don’t know.

But in 2009 Judge Roll was assigned round the clock security because of numerous threats against his life.  He was presiding over a case in which some illegals had sued a rancher for detaining them as they were crossing his land coming into the United States.  He had ruled that the case could go forward and this became a subject of talk radio which resulted in the threats.  This explains a lot as to why we keep hearing so much about toning down the rhetoric.

An Arizona man who has waged a 10-year campaign to stop a flood of illegal immigrants from crossing his property is being sued by 16 Mexican nationals who accuse him of conspiring to violate their civil rights when he stopped them at gunpoint on his ranch on the U.S.-Mexico border.

Roger Barnett, 64, began rounding up illegal immigrants in 1998 and turning them over to the U.S. Border Patrol, he said, after they destroyed his property, killed his calves and broke into his home.

His Cross Rail Ranch near Douglas, Ariz., is known by federal and county law enforcement authorities as “the avenue of choice” for immigrants seeking to enter the United States illegally.

…..the lawsuit, which seeks $32 million in actual and punitive damages for civil rights violations, the infliction of emotional distress and other crimes. Also named are Mr. Barnett’s wife, Barbara, his brother, Donald, and Larry Dever, sheriff in Cochise County, Ariz., where the Barnetts live.

The lawsuit is based on a March 7, 2004, incident in a dry wash on the 22,000-acre ranch, when he approached a group of illegal immigrants while carrying a gun and accompanied by a large dog.

See Washington Times

Verdict:  A federal jury in Tucson ruled that an Arizona rancher did not violate the civil rights of 16 Mexican nationals he stopped after they sneaked illegally into the United States, but awarded $78,000 in actual and punitive damages on claims of assault and the infliction of emotional distress.

I’ll bet the whole thing is about illegal immigration and that could explain why President Obama came out so quickly to make a statement.  That was way out of character for him to move so quickly.

There were four men identified as having made the threats against the judge, but he declined to press charges against them.  So don’t you know they have been hunting these guys down behind the scenes.

Something else I ran across was a Wikipedia page showing a date of death for Congresswoman Giffords.  Somebody was really in a hurry to make that notation.  I’m not sure how such changes are made so maybe that’s not unusual, but you would think they would be sure she was dead before reporting her death in Wikipedia.  I just copied the entry below.

Gabrielle Giffords (June 8, 1970 – January 8, 2011) was the U.S. Representative for Arizona’s 8th congressional district. She was a member of the Democratic Party.

On January 8, 2011, she was shot dead at a public event in Tucson, Arizona.[1]


On January 8, 2011, Congresswoman Giffords and at least nine other persons were shot at a “Congress on Your Corner” event at a supermarket in Tucson, Arizona. The suspect was arrested. Giffords died later at University Medical Center in Tucson. [40]

This whole thing is getting curiouser and curiouser.

Posted:  01.09.11


Filed under Human Interest, politics, Uncategorized

5 responses to “Some details about Judge John Roll killed in Arizona massacre

  1. One problem with your hypothesis – Judge Roll was not a planned attendee at the event. I don’t have the link handy, but it’s reported that he heard of the event that morning, called his wife to let her he was going to go be social / civil, and went off to his death.


  2. The Search Warrant results show this kid planned this for a long, long time.

    A letter was found at Loughner’s home, marked “I planned ahead” and “my assassination” (emphasis mine):

    “On January 8, 2011, a search warrant was executed at 7741 N. Soledad Avenue in Tucson, Arizona, where LOUGHNER resides. Some of the evidence seized from that location included a letter in a safe, addressed to “Mr. Jared Loughney” at 7741 N. Soledad Avenue, from Congresswoman Giffords, on Congressional stationary, dated August 30, 2007, thanking him for attending a “Congress on your Corner” event at the Foothills Mall in Tucson. Also recovered in the safe was an envelope with handwriting on the envelope stating “I planned ahead,” and “My assassination” and the name “Giffords,” along with what appears to be LOUGHNER’s signature.”

    from Congresswoman Giffords, on Congressional stationary, dated August 30, 2007.

    Sarah Palin didn’t show up on the political scene until the summer of 2008. The TEA Party didn’t start forming until 2009.

    I am not going to hold my breath waiting for the MSM to correct their unsubstantiated accusations.

    I don’t rule out that he had cohorts at least in cyber space.


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