Holder hasn’t read the Arizona bill SB1070

Eric Holder admits yesterday that he has not even read the Arizona immigration law, SB1070 that has been the subject of much very public criticism by him, the president, and many others.

How is it that the top lawyer in the United States has voiced his so-called concerns about a law based purely on hearsay and what he heard on the news?

It is no small thing to take on the governor of a sovereign state, siding with illegals, claiming this law is probably unconstitutional and encourages profiling, and thereby encouraging an elevated state of lawlessness on the border and within Arizona, and without even reading the about 15 pages of the law.

It surprises me, but I don’t know why it does.  These people are irresponsible.  The president himself said practically the same thing, and I doubt he has read it either.  He could have asked his Attorney General for an opinion of the law, but it is now apparent that he did not, since the AG hasn’t read the law either.

It’s not the first time this president has rushed to judgment on something he admittedly did not have the facts about.

https://bellalu0.wordpress.com/2009/07/23/president-of-the-u-s-verbally-attacks-cambridge-police/

Posted:  05.14.10

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Filed under Barack Obama, Courts, crime, Human Interest, Law, politics, Uncategorized

11 responses to “Holder hasn’t read the Arizona bill SB1070

  1. W2

    I completely understand your criticism of the AG, if he has not reead the Arizona law. I am, however, a bit confused by your argument that goeas something like; the AG did not read the law, but is criticizing it, so since the President is also criticizing it, he must not have read it either.

    Or are you saying that because the President probably jumped the gun on the Cambridge police issue (personally I think he should have kept out of it), that this is somehow a justifiable premise to assume that he did not read SB1070?

    Or are you saying that the law itself is beyond criticism and that anybody who reads it will find nothing in it that is cause for concern?

    I read it and I think that there is some cause for concern.

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  2. bellalu0

    Actually I assumed that Obama has not read it because he came out so quickly, even before the governor signed the bill into law, to criticize it, and because judging from his lackadaisical attention to detail, and preoccupation with himself, I doubt he bothered. And because of his obvious distaste for law enforcement, as well. which has been shown in the past. I said I doubt the president has read it, I don’t know that for a fact. But I wonder what his answer would be if he were asked the same question as Holder, under oath? Would be interesting to know.

    What is your concern? I believe any law is subject to abuse, any one of them. If a cop wants to stop me and ask for my driver’s license and registration, he can do so. I can’t stop him. What would be wrong with that anyway, if I have the DL and the registration, proof of insurance, I don’t have anything to worry about. Just produce them. If I don’t, then I should have them, and I’ll have to answer for breaking the law, so what’s the problem?

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    • W2

      I won’t pursue the first part of your response because it looks like it will get me into a shouting match which is never productive and I’m pretty sure I’ll lose.

      I may be wrong, but I don’t think a cop can just stop you and ask for your license and registration without any good reason (barring abuse of power of course). You are right, though, as long as you have your documentation you should have nothing to worry about. My concern is that the grounds for the cop stopping you is because you look a certain way.That in itself creates a double standard because people who do not look that certain way but who are not in compliance are not likely to be caught in the net created by this law. Don’t get me wrong. I am not in any way advocating illegal practices, but the reality is that we’re trying to close the barn door after the horse has bolted. I don’t think anyone has given much thought to the implications of potentially deporting thousands of people in one fell swoop.

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  3. bellalu0

    It is beside the point what I look like, if I am not violating the law, and have my papers, i.e. DL, registration and proof of insurance, than I don’t have to be concerned if I get stopped. The key is “violating the law.” If I am in this country illegally, I am violating the law right off the top.

    If I go into Mexico illegally and do not have whatever papers they require, I don’t think they will worry too much about throwing me in jail or whatever else they want to do, if they don’t shoot me first. When you are in some other country, you better be able to show you have a right to be there, or you will pay the consequences. And I don’t think they will be as nice about it as we are here. Look what happened to those two American women who stumbled into Iran.

    I believe it was 1986 when they came up with the same old promise, let everybody become legal and the law will be enforced hereafter. It’s no wonder we don’t believe it will happen this time either.

    But anyway, the post was more about those in high places who take the side of illegals over the governor and legal citizens of a sovereign state. It’s outrageous. And it just compounds the irresponsibility of it when we find out that Holder for sure has not read the law, and probably knows less about it than I do, (Which isn’t very much) just what he has heard and from news reports.

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    • W2

      Looks like we’ll have to agree to disagree. I concur with most of your argument, especially when you say it is beside the point what you look like. I think it should be beside the point, however this law almost guarantees that you could be targeted based on how you look .

      I would go out on a limb though and say there are no real sovereign states in the U.S. it’s an oxymoron (to my mind anyway) to expect to be part of the “union” but exercise complete sovereignty. That is just a pipe dream.

      Your point about the AG is well taken though; it is much better to say let me get back you on that rather than make statements without knowing the facts. You and I can do that, but he is not in a position that allows him to just spout stuff.

      Thanks for the interaction. It is always good to hear different perspectives.

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  4. bellalu0

    B. J. Crowley, Asst. Secretary of State, has not read the Az. bill either.

    We have total incompetents running this country. This bill is only about 16 pages long, at the most, and it’s in easy to understand language, unlike the health care monstrosity. Would it be asking too much for these highly paid people at least read it before they get on national tv and criticize it? Wouldn’t that be just basic common sense?

    http://www.breitbart.tv/state-department-spokesman-critical-of-arizona-law-admits-he-too-hasnt-read-it/

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  5. bellalu0

    It looks like to me that at least half of the bill is addressing EMOLOYERS of illegals. Now I would think anybody who has a business and is able to employ an illegal would themselves be CITIZENS. So a good portion of the bill is actually directed at citizens, and only indirectly at illegals. I have not heard of anyone who disagrees with the fact that enforcement should start with hiring practices.

    Here’s the bill.

    http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf

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  6. Sarah Palin we need a literacy program for the current administration. Apparently they can’t read…I guess they are waiting for the movie.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2010/05/18/video-the-state-department-hasnt-read-the-az-bill-either/

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  7. Huh it’s actually part of the Federal Government’s law that local state law enforcement uphold the Federal Law regarding illegal aliens…turns out there isn’t a big enough federal police force to be everywhere so they added the provision during the Bush years…that’s going to make suing Arizona over their law difficult because they are following the Federal Law after all to the LETTER.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2010/05/18/obama-administrations-official-position-agrees-with-az-immigration-enforcement-law/

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  8. In the legal battle over Arizona’s new immigration law, an ironic subtext has emerged: whether a Bush-era legal opinion complicates a potential Obama administration lawsuit against Arizona.

    The document, written in 2002 by the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel, concluded that state police officers have “inherent power” to arrest undocumented immigrants for violating federal law. …

    From above link.

    Isn’t it time for other states to follow Arizona’s lead?

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