“You lie!” – Well, didn’t he?

The night’s defining moment — which Democrats hope to transform into a turning point – came when Rep. Joe Wilson (R-SC) shouted “You lie!” as Obama claimed his plan wouldn’t offer free care to illegal immigrants.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/26970.html#ixzz0QhEgAvk3

Well, Rep. Joe Wilson just went from unknown to the spotlight.  Look for character assassination from the White House and the MSM.

I say:  Just get over it.  He should be glad it’s not Britain.  He’s so impressed with European!

And I’m coming down on the side of Joe Wilson.  I don’t think Mr. Wilson should have apologized.  No. At. All. Now, to quote president Obama when he accused the police of acting stupidly, maybe he could have “calibrated his words differently.”  But I think he should get a medal for saying what a lot of us are thinking.  Especially after the president had just said something about others telling lies.  He doesn’t mind calling people liars if they dare to defy him, and bullying –   “I will call you out.”

Question:  Will illegal immigrants be covered?  Was that, in fact, a lie when POTUS said they would not?

I did notice that the uninsured just went from 47 million down to 30 million.  Did he lie the first 500 times he said there were 47 million?  You darn right he did, and the 30 million figure he is using is still not an accurate number.

It really was a horrible speech showing just how small and bitter he is.

See What He Said and What He Meant.

P. S. – How quickly we forget:

“”In 2004, Democrats delivered a “Chorus Of Boos” during Bush’s State Of The Union when he called for renewal of the Patriot Act., according to the Washington Times.

In 2005, Dems howled, hissed and shouted “No!” when Bush pushed for Social Security reform in the SOU:  “Foreshadowing the contentiousness of the coming debate, Democrats broke decorum and booed twice,” according to the National Journal.””

Posted:  09.10.09


Filed under art, Barack Obama, health care, politics, President Barack Obama, Uncategorized

50 responses to ““You lie!” – Well, didn’t he?

  1. PCL

    Nahhh, they won’t assassinate his character–he did that himself tonight. The real defining moment? That was when Obama got an ovation for saying that he didn’t want to put the insurance companies out of business, just hold em accountable–and no Republicans stood up. Classic case of not wanting to bite the hand that feeds them, eh?



  2. Mel

    I’m proud of my Rep for speaking what we were all thinking. What an awful speech – didnt’ speak to me for one second. He says he’ll do ‘test’ Tort reform which means no way will he do anything. He’s in bed with the trial lawyers. He also included the illegals in his number to be covered.


  3. The Tone was much better then they have used for a long time. I take that as an acknowledgment, that they know they are losing the Middle or Center folks, the Independents like me. I didn’t see any gain by taking shots at the Republicans.

    So Obama’s Tone is moving to the middle but his Substance is still tied to the far left. Here are the three big hurdles he couldn’t jump over.

    Delivery: we don’t need a radical government change to how we get our health care delivered to us, we certainly don’t need another bloated big government program especially right now.

    Logistics: even if we believe him that illegals, said to be numbering around 10 million in this country, won’t be covered at American Taxpayer expense that leaves up to 37 million, they claim are chronically uninsured. How do you add 37 million people into a system without the medical infrastructure to service them? Logistics.

    Cost: this is where I should have started if you can’t pay for this without piling on unsustainable debt to the national budget forget the whole thing. They can’t pay for this by cleaning up Government waste if the Government could remove waste from any of the entitlement programs they already had many, many opportunities. Remember these are the same folks who proposed and passed Porkulus Bill. So their definition of waste and our definition of waste are two different things.

    There were some Constitutional questions about the penalty proposal for not buying health insurance. I am not sure the government can force anyone under the Constitution to buy health insurance. This is away to chip away at the Constitution and weaken it.

    Van Jones did more damage to Obama than is being reported on.

    Van Jones mentioned “The Third Wave of Progressivism” That he said we are experiencing right now, we are in the third wave.

    When Obama told the Progressives he understood why they wanted a Public Option but basically stated he was open to other ideas to get to the same results. That’s code for we plant the time bomb in the budget for this health care reform, and the next Progressive wave will have to finish what we started “Changing the Country” This means in about 10 years (The Cost) of this thing will go off in our kids lives, and ours but it’s going to hurt them the most, they will be basically working to pay taxes. The size of our debt is so unrealistic it doesn’t matter how many times David Axelrod invokes George W Bush’s name – The cupboard is bare.

    Obama’s TONE was much better if they were trying to reach the middle they hit the target with their TONE.

    I was watching Bill O’Reilly joking with David Axelrod and Axelrod was actually amusing. He told O’Reilly he was going to block off a weekend so they could go down to Cancun together LOL!

    I don’t watch MSNBC but I suspect the coverage was something like- if you don’t worship the messiah, you are a racist. Sigh when will someone put MSNBC out of it’s misery?


  4. Bella,

    The Gentleman from South Carolina has the floor.

    We don’t see no light We don’t see no way
    You don’t ever leave, but you want me to stay
    You can believe in me I won’t be leaving, I won’t let you go.

    Obama, I won’t sign a bill that adds one cent to the national debt.

    Ain’t that what you said? Ain’t that what you said?
    Ain’t that what you said?


  5. bellalu0

    How quickly we forget:

    “”In 2004, Democrats delivered a “Chorus Of Boos” during Bush’s State Of The Union when he called for renewal of the Patriot Act., according to the Washington Times.

    In 2005, Dems howled, hissed and shouted “No!” when Bush pushed for Social Security reform in the SOU: “Foreshadowing the contentiousness of the coming debate, Democrats broke decorum and booed twice,” according to the National Journal.””


  6. Bella,

    Someone on chickaboomer commented that one of those Democrats booing George W Bush was probably Rahm Emanuel.


  7. Mel

    Geez…they’re calling for my Rep, Joe Wilson, to be censured on islandpacket.com. Ridiculous. I only wish he had not apologized. The worst he did was speak out of turn but he spoke what most of us believe.


  8. Mel


    ’45 percent Democratic and 18 percent Republican’…


  9. bellalu0

    I wish he had not apologized.

    Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi should be censured for calling the American people mobs and evil mongers.

    The hypocrites.


  10. Mel

    Did you see McCain (or as Taryn used to say, McShame) on Today? And his icky daughter too? I heard the clip and remember now why he lost. Does the right have anyone w/ a backbone? This guy Wilson could become a hero but here he is apologizing.


  11. There has been some scrubbing going on to suppress information on where to go to donate to Joe Wilson.

    The URL published here was working when I copied it:



  12. bellalu0

    I saw McCain mealy mouthing. And I wasted my time working for him.

    But Wilson said the republican leadership told him to hurry up and apologize. But WHAT leadership?

    Have you noticed Obama and his crowd NEVER apologize for anything. They can insult people night and day and I have never one of them apologize? Did Obama say he was sorry for calling the Cambridge police stupid? He made the whole dam thing into a photo op for himself.


  13. Ms. M

    as with Imus, we have become a nation of apologists….NO Wilson, nor Imus should have apologized……personally I thought it was the highlight of the night….& you all know the RNC did the same thing to RON PAUL during the “campaign”….my advice to anyone who cares about REAL representation is give DIRECTLY to those candidates you believe in….NO MONIES to RNC or DNC…study the incumbants voting records & VOTE THEM OUT if they are not representing you & your beliefs….forget this “two pty” shit, let ’em all sweat every TWO or FOUR years….PUBLIC SERVANTS THAT WANT TO MAKE A CAREER OUT OF OFFICE, THEIR VOTING RECORDS BETTER REFLECT THEY ARE THERE FOR OUR GOOD…..BULLSHIT DETECTED


  14. Mel

    If someone, anyone, could speak out for us…McCain is the reason we’re stuck with this radical in the White House. He apologized for Obama during the campaign..oh no, Obama isn’t a communist just because he hangs w/ them. No, no. This country is starving for leadership and we have McCain?

    I had the best coversation w/ my husband today. He has sobered up from his Obama stupor and is finally thinking logically about how all these issues actually affect our lives, our kids’ futures. Everything about him is conservative but it’s his emotions that make him liberal…but he’s coming around!


  15. Mel

    Yeah, another speech!



  16. Crisis that dog won’t hunt anymore…they sure are looking desperate don’t they know the rules “Never Let Em See You Sweat” They are really starting to sweat if they got him humping this hard.


  17. Mel

    This is long but well worth reading:

    *Subject:* “Throw the Bums Out”

    Remember Lee Iacocca, the man who rescued Chrysler Corporation from its death throes? He’s now 82 years old and has a new book,** ‘Where Have All The Leaders Gone**?’.** He says

    ‘Am I the only guy in this country who’s fed up with what’s happening? Where the hell is our outrage? We should be screaming bloody murder! We’ve got a gang of clueless bozos steering our ship of state right over a cliff, we’ve got corporate gangsters stealing us blind, and we can’t even clean up after a hurricane much less build a hybrid car. But instead of getting mad, everyone sits around and nods their heads when the politicians say, ‘Stay the course..’**
    Stay the course? You’ve got to be kidding. This is America , not the damned, ‘Titanic’. I’ll give you a sound bite: **’Throw all the bums out!’ **
    You might think I’m getting senile, that I’ve gone off my rocker, and maybe I have. But someone has to speak up. I hardly recognize this country anymore..**
    The most famous business leaders are not the innovators but the guys in handcuffs.. While we’re fiddling in Iraq , the Middle East is burning and nobody seems to know what to do. And the press is waving ‘pom-poms’ instead of asking hard questions. That’s not the promise of the ‘ America ‘ my parents and yours traveled across the ocean for. I’ve had enough. How about you? **
    I’ll go a step further. You can’t call yourself a patriot if you’re not outraged. This is a fight I’m ready and willing to have. The Biggest ‘C’ is Crisis! (Iacocca elaborates on nine C’s of leadership, with crisis being the first.)**

    Leaders are made, not born. Leadership is forged in times of crisis. It’s easy to sit there with your feet up on the desk and talk theory. Or send someone else’s kids off to war when you’ve never seen a battlefield yourself. It’s another thing to lead when your world comes tumbling down.**
    On September 11, 2001, we needed a strong leader more than any other time in our history. We needed a steady hand to guide us out of the ashes. A hell of a mess, so here’s where we stand.**
    We’re immersed in a bloody war with no plan for winning and no plan for leaving. **
    Obama is running the biggest deficit in the history of the country. **
    We’re losing the manufacturing edge to Asia , while our once-great companies are getting slaughtered by health care costs. **
    Gas prices are skyrocketing, and nobody in power has a coherent energy policy. Our schools are in trouble due to poor leadership in school districts. **
    Our borders are like sieves. **
    The middle class is being squeezed every which way. **
    These are times that cry out for leadership.**
    But when you look around, you’ve got to ask: ‘Where have all the leaders gone?’ Where are the curious, creative communicators? Where are the people of character, courage, conviction, omnipotence, and common sense? I may be a sucker for alliteration, but I think you get the point.**
    Name me a leader who has a better idea for homeland security than making us take off our shoes in airports and throw away our shampoo?**
    We’ve spent billions of dollars building a huge new bureaucracy, and all we know how to do is react to things that have already happened.**
    Name me one leader who emerged from the crisis of Hurricane Katrina. Congress has yet to spend a single day evaluating the response to the hurricane or demanding accountability for the decisions that were made in the crucial hours after the storm. **
    Everyone’s hunkering down, fingers crossed, hoping it doesn’t happen again. Now, that’s just crazy. Storms happen. Deal with it. Make a plan. Figure out what you’re going to do the next time.**
    Name me an industry leader who is thinking creatively about how we can restore our competitive edge in manufacturing. Who would have believed that there could ever be a time when ‘The Big Three’ referred to Japanese car companies? How did this happen, and more important, what are we going to do about it?**
    Name me a government leader who can articulate a plan for paying down the debit, or solving the energy crisis, or managing the health care problem. The silence is deafening. But these are the crises that are eating away at our country and milking the middle class dry. **
    I have news for the gang in Congress. We didn’t elect you to sit on your asses and do nothing and remain silent while our democracy is being hijacked and our greatness is being replaced with mediocrity. What is everybody so afraid of? That some bonehead on NBC news or CNN news will call them a name?
    Give me a break. Why don’t you guys show some spine for a change?**
    Had Enough? Hey, I’m not trying to be the voice of gloom and doom here. I’m trying to light a fire. I’m speaking out because I have hope – I believe in America . In my lifetime, I’ve had the privilege of living through some of America ‘s greatest moments. I’ve also experienced some of our worst crises:
    The ‘Great Depression,’ ‘World War II,’ the ‘Korean War,’ the ‘Kennedy Assassination,’ the ‘Vietnam War,’ the 1970’s oil crisis, and the struggles of recent years culminating with 9/11.**
    **If I’ve learned one thing, it’s this: ‘You don’t get anywhere by standing on the sidelines waiting for somebody else to take action. Whether it’s building a better car or building a better future for our children, we all have a role to play. * *Only a few people in the US know you elected a illegal alien to be President! A Muslim at that! And he jumped* *right in destroying the US from the inside. Osama bin Laden is smiling from ear to ear because he is winning the war on terror and you helped by voting his man in as President!* *That’s the challenge I’m raising in this book. It’s a “Call to Action” for people who, like me, believe in America ‘. It’s not too late, but it’s getting pretty close. So let’s shake off the crap and go to work. Let’s tell ’em all we’ve had ‘enough.’*


    • Catherine from Cohoctah, Michigan

      Mel…Amen and again, Amen! You are the first person to mention the fact (besides me) that our president is an illegal alien! That puts our military in a really BAD place. If they follow the orders of an inellegible president, they can be court marshalled! And ‘bama has hired thousands of law firms across the country to work on his behalf to keep all his records from the birth certificate to his shcool records away from the public. And so far, they are succeeding. The American people not only have to fight the unhinged taxing and this health care plan that will fine a person for not having it, while the government is exempt from having to have it…and the biggest and worst thing about our president is still being concealed…and that is he is inellegible to be in the White House and giving orders to our militarty! The main stream media is doing every thing in it’s power to kill this knowlege before it can be well known. What needs to be done is to have a march on DC like this one (wasn’t it great?!) to demand that ‘bama shows us his records and to prove once and for all that he either is…or is not…an American born citizen! They investigated McCain for his elegiblility when he was running for president, but totally ignored even asking Obama. The left liberals told that dingbat, Howard Dean, that he had better check into Obama’s background before nominating him for the DNC candidate. But it was not done, and now that Obama is spending MILLIONS, (and where is this money coming from, I wonder?) to keep his very identity secret from the people whom he is ‘leading’, he seems to think he can continue to do so. And he will be able to continue this charade as long as most of the American people remain largly ignorant of the facts. We can thank our very own main stream media for continuing to keep this fact buried. I am astounded by how many people who truely do not have any knowlege of Obama’s actual birthplace being Mombasa, Kenya, Africa. Especially when it is a WELL KNOWN FACT IN MOMBASA THAT SOMEONE WHO IS AFRICAN BY BIRTH IS NOW RUNNING THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! He is a hero and an icon in Kenya…one of their own runs the USA! Yet, most Americans are led to believe that the Secretaries of State did their jobs in vetting Obama, making sure, as they did with McCain, that he was indeed eligable as an American born citizen, to be our president. People need to be aware that not only is Obama inelegible to be our Commander in Chief, but that he is also an illegal immagrant! Spread the word! The American people have to rise up like they have against the spending and the taxing and the health care reform and DEMAND THAT OBAMA SHOW HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND HIS SCHOOL RECORDS, just like every president before him has had to do. We Americans truly have had enough, and it’s up to we Americans to revolt, if we have to, to get some honest answers about this person Obama/Soetoro.


  18. Mel

    Obama couldn’t bother to attend the 9/11 ceremonies today but sent Bozo Biden


  19. Remember when The New York Times Reported The News? We Will Never Forget. Warner Wolf 11 September 2001.



  20. Ms. M

    Mel, I’ve been asking that ? for the longest time….what I don’t get is why the overwhelming majority of an INDEPENDENT Nation is willing to not only settle for mediocrity, but expect it….haven’t had much time to read (redoing domicle I live in!) but will pick up “where have all the leaders gone?” & then pass it on to my brother….personally I LOVE Chrysler?Dodge products….(brother does too) God Bless all those persons who lost loved ones in the World Trade Center….let us see what is reported with 9-12….when was Iaocco’s book released? prior to 9-12 organizing events? sure sounds like he would approve of citizens taking back their country! AUDIT THE FED!


  21. MsM

    It may take a collation of Independents to clean out the present corruptocrats. The Republicans have been infected with Progressives too. There doesn’t seem to be any will in D.C. for a leader to pick up the mantle of true populism. (Sarah Palin isn’t in Government right now) Glenn Beck asked Democrats “You Hated When George W Bush Increased The Power of the Federal Government” Do you want Obama to leave unprecedented power to the Next possible Republican President?

    The problem is the Progressives, and the answer is Populism.


  22. Ms. M

    Ree, in full agreement! been voting the Independent line for the last 20….am anxiously awaiting tomorrows convergence on Washington….I believe the voter should start thinking TERM LIMITS by vigilent watching of voting records, & disregard party affiliation…..let them know that they indeed are suppose to be representing US & not special interests….this BS with mandatory carrying healthcare insurence should be a sure tip off to who is really behind this bill….INSURANCE COMPANIES….more gvn’t, more fees & fines, God I can’t even verbalize what I am feeling…..


  23. Ms. M

    I have heard from my friend, the young computer whiz, that Rep Joe Wilson’s constituents are THRILLED with his saying what they all want to say but are not in a position to say it….understand support is overwhelming in political contributions…..


  24. Ms. M

    wilson has raised 200K in donations since “you lie”!


  25. Mel

    Ms. M… some dumb blonde on Fox was just saying he was an idiot and embarrassed himself – sorry, sweetheart but we don’t think so…besides raising cash, the t-shirts are selling like crazy too. I volunteered for his campaign today and will do whatever they ask later this year. In SC, we have Wilson, Sen DeMint, who is great, and the moronic Gov Sanford and turncoat Lindsey Grahamnesty. It could be worse, I know.

    TGIF, love Friday nights! I can’t wait to see how the media covers tomorrow’s march on Washington.


  26. Ms. M

    Mel, no kidding on the coverage, organizers & Dick Armey just on Hannity, think it is going to be HUGE! methinks so too! I don’t think awareness is going back to pre 2008 & 2010 may prove to be very interesting! I do hope that new blood surfaces with spine & more than rhetoric! enjoy the weekend! working on the house…going grey & wht, kitchen has black appliances, new floor going in now, rock like with copper brown, grey & dark brown, all accents in brushed nickel, looks good, can’t wait til its finished tho, 4 days on my pantry alone which doesn’t have much food but tons of antique glass….sold a bunch to a dealer & I can’t even remember what I sold, whatever it was I don’t miss it….I’ve been tossing, donating, selling whatever it takes to pare down….going for the minimalistic look!


  27. The Dems are worried about tomorrow and they should be I have been to a tea party before these are working folks who are either getting off work or taking off work. NOT professional protesters like CODE PINK who is subsidized. To me that makes their march on Washington even the more poignant.



  28. Breaking: Census Bureau cuts ties to ACORN; Update: “We do not come to this decision lightly”


    I really think we are going to see this HOUSE OF CARDS start to fold. They are in retreat in too many areas if you are innocent you don’t have to keep collapsing arms of your political apparatus. The problem is their arms are so corrupt, and they can’t stay hidden, not in the age of the Internet.


  29. Ms. M

    Ree, I think the dems are worried about more than just tomorrow hehehe, 2010 perhaps? my concern about that tho is the pendulum of power swinging & nothing much changing, business as usual….I sure hope R’s are waking up but having Wilson apologize was NOT in my opinion smart….where have all the leaders gone for God’s sake?! the ofc is suppose to be respected but I think the citizenship should be respected more, like where is that BC & just prove to us with transparency you are what yor are suppose to be, a natural borne citizen…til then all bets off in the respect dept I’d say…..that’s a problem with our “representation”, they have NO idea how we think,,,,,


  30. Ms. M

    cspan, Mdme spkr Pelosi dedicating plaque to flight 93, is it me, or do these elitists have absolutely NO class…she took at least 3 minutes or more introducing every rep in the room from the podium, & the guy who apparently pushed for this plaque got to read the names without a mike…..my impression was that everything they do is more about them than the public they alledgedly serve….


  31. MsM,

    Colin Powell gave a speech yesterday in Pennsylvania and invoked Lincoln because he gave an address in the state before. What does Lincoln, have to do with 9-11? These people are bankrupt. They are just throwing code words together now.

    I agree Wilson Should not apologize. If he thinks it was a Lie than he told the truth. Telling the truth, I guess that is punishable in D.C. LOL!


  32. Mel

    Notice how the media never talks about how Obama worked for Acorn and did their training?

    I hope today is huge in DC. My brother-in-law is there (former liberal)


  33. Mel

    Ms M…house sounds great!


  34. bellalu0

    Now they’re not satisfied with the apology he has already made. They want him to apologize on the floor of the house or be sanctioned. Like I said, an apology is never enough so why give one. It just seems to open the door for more and more demands.

    Maybe he should stand up and say “Folks, I could have calibrated my words better.” (But nevertheless he did lie all the way through the speech.)


  35. Mel

    If all he has to do is apologize for his conduct (speaking out of turn blah blah), versus taking back what he said, I guess we’ll have to live with it. He has not backed down and since clarified w/ proof Obama was telling a lie about immigration. It’s disgraceful that people like McCain are screwing him. He could easily become a leader right now if he plays his cards right.

    I’m excited about the March today! I hope all the networks cover it but I’m not holding my breath. A big bus left from my small Island yesterday.

    Bella, love the blog but I think I may finally need glasses to read the small print!


  36. bellalu0

    I’ll see if I can make the font bigger. 🙂

    If you have foxfire, you can hit control/+, it will make it a little bigger.

    CNN is showing some of the march now. Looks like a large crowd.


  37. Mel

    I don’t think the March starts until 1 so that’s a good sign. I’m on a laptop so it’s smaller than my desktop, no biggie.

    I’m trying to get housework done but I am NOT in the mood!


  38. Mel

    oopes, posted on an old thread.

    Did I just hear Obama has planned a rally at 1 of his own? Unbelievable. The best thing he could do is embrace those in DC today.


  39. bellalu0


    Here’s a picture of the crowd.

    Where is he going today?


  40. Mel

    Wholy God! Did you see the size of that crowd (on MSNBC – I do like Alex, only one at MSNBC)? My husband said no way it was for the March, had to be for Obama’s rally in MN. Of course, you know O’s Team is probably paying people to show up for him. The group in DC all paid their own way, own time, etc. I pray this is the beginning of the end of this nightmare. It really is too bad Obama can’t suck it up and be a part of this


  41. Mel

    See, I’m spelling everything wrong because I can’t see! Holy God!


  42. Mel

    I also pray this is a safe day for all those people in DC.


  43. bellalu0

    I just heard Obama was speaking at 2 p.m. somewhere. The Fox coverage with Glenn Beck is supposed to be 1 to 3 p.m…. I wonder if he did that on purpose so the networks would cover him.


  44. Mel

    My sister just called. Her husband left at 2 am from Winston-Salem on one of 8 big buses heading to DC. I’m so proud of him!


  45. Hey, you have a great blog here! I’m definitely going to bookmark you! Thank you for your info.And this is Home Improvement site/blog. It pretty much covers Home Improvement related stuff.


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