Daily Archives: November 19, 2008

Obama’s Birth Certificate Revisited

This time by Alan Keyes.

Okay.  Once again this issue comes up about the birth certificate.  I haven’t written anything about this that I remember, but it just keeps coming up, this time as late in the game as November 12th.


Alan Keyes has reportedly filed a Petition for Writ of Mandate in the Superior Court of California, a portion of which I copied below.  It shows the petition to be signed by attorneys on November 12, 2008, it has a case number, but there is no “filed and date stamp” shown.  This means that it may or may not have been filed with the court.  It probably was, they say it was, but this petition could be all typed up and prepared and signed and never filed with the court. All I am saying is that there is no proof that I see that it was actually filed.   Also, it is a petition, not an order, so it has no weight unless the judge signs the order.  It will be interesting to see if anything comes of it.

This is a copy of what has been presented on the Obama website.


I’ve had some experience in how a certified copy is made and how it looks.  This does not look like a certified copy to me.  It could be, but it does not look like one.  My experience has been certifying documents from a court file.  First of all, there is only one original document.  To certify a copy, the copy has to be made directly from the original document.  The copy then will be signed and dated by the official who made the copy from the original, and then sealed with the court seal.  (Something like a Notary would do, but not the same thing.)  This would be a person who is sworn in as an official in the particular agency.)  You can’t even then make a copy of that signed copy; it would be invalid.  So I think Senator Obama will have to present one to some authority before being sworn in as president.

A certified copy of a birth record in Hawaii can be obtained from the Hawaii Department of Heath for $10.00 but only by person(s) with a “tangible interest.”  There is also an even higher level “authenticated copy” that can be obtained.  Details available at:


Anyway, this petition does present some interesting assertions, such as:

“The vault (long Version) birth certificate, per Hawaiian Statute 883.176 allows the birth in another State or another country to be registered in Hawaii. Box 7C of the vault Certificate of Live Birth contains a question, whether the birth was in Hawaii or another State or Country. Therefore, the only way to verify the exact location of birth is to review a certified copy or the original vault Certificate of Live Birth and compare the name of the hospital and the name and the signature of the doctor against the birthing records on file at the hospital noted on the Certificate of the Live Birth.

“Petitioner prays:

That the court issue a peremptory writ in the first instance barring Respondent Secretary of State of California, Ms. Bowen, from both certifying to the Governor the names of the California Election, and from transmitting to each president Elector a Certificate of Election, until such Documentary proof is produced and verified showing that Senator Obama is  a “natural born” citizen of the United States and does not hold citizenship of Indonesia, Kenya, or Great Britain.

In addition, this writ requests that the court issue a peremptory writ barring Respondent California Electors from signing the Certificate of Vote until such documentary proof is produced and verified showing that the Senator Obama is “natural born” citizen of the United States and does not hold citizenship of Indonesia, Kenya, or Great Britain.”

See entire petition at:



Here’s what Michelle Malkin said in June:


Note:  birth_certificate_7

Fact Check dot org is showing several images they claim to be made from the document the Obama people have.  This is one of the images; there’s about nine of them.  This looks authentic, I just don’t see it on the document above.  I am just wondering why this is still a question.

Fact Check dot org has investigated this pretty thoroughly so go to:


Here is what a real Hawaiian birth certificate looks like (link below).  Of course, this is not obama’s birth certificate but a copy of somebody’s certificate who was born in Hawaii.  Notice it gives a place of birth, signature of attending physician, and signature of mother.  None of this appears on what Obama has brought forward as his birth certificate:


Posted:  11.19.08   Revised:  11.20.08


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